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标题: [讨论]中国日报关于笔迷玩笔的特别报道 [打印本页]
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-11-29 16:14
标题: [讨论]中国日报关于笔迷玩笔的特别报道
大家好,
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</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我是中国日报的实习记者,我想写一篇笔迷玩笔的特别报道。主要想写写钢笔爱好者的</span><span lang="EN-US">"</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">酸甜苦辣</span><span lang="EN-US">"</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">。我自己一直很喜欢钢笔,一用到好笔就心潮翻滚,但从不知道还有这么多“玩笔”的内行。最近发现这个论坛,觉得这个“特殊群体”很有趣,值得报道。我希望能在这里找到一位愿意接受采访的笔迷,比较有代表性最好。</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">中国日报是国内唯一全国性的英文报纸,报社在北京,所以最好能找到在北京的笔迷,见面谈(因为还要配照片)。如果有感兴趣的,请和我联系,</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:chunzixu@gmail.com">chunzixu@gmail.com</a>, </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">手机号码</span><span lang="EN-US"> 136-9310-6257. </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">如果您有可能对此事感兴趣的论坛外的笔友</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">也请转告</span><span lang="EN-US"><!--Element not supported - Type: 8 Name: #comment-->. <!--Element not supported - Type: 8 Name: #comment--><op></op></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">文章将有一个主人公</span><span lang="EN-US">, </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">不过只要爱玩笔,我都有兴趣采访。下面是几个初步的问题,如果大家有兴趣、有空,请回个话。</span></p>
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- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">您</span><span lang="EN-US">“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">玩笔</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">有多久了?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/>
- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">收了多少好笔?</span><br/><span lang="EN-US">
- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">怎么开始的?<br/></span><span lang="EN-US">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">最喜欢钢笔的什么</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"></span><span lang="EN-US"><br/>
- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">一般和笔友们聚吗</span><span lang="EN-US">? </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">有什么活动吗?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/>
- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">相比之下,更喜欢谈笔,收笔,还是更喜欢用笔?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/>
- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">玩笔有什么心得?有什么痴迷的事例</span><span lang="EN-US">?<br/>- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">您认为</span><span lang="EN-US">, </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">笔迷一般都有什么共性</span><span lang="EN-US">? </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">或者说</span><span lang="EN-US">, </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">您觉得您性格的哪个方面促使您爱上了钢笔</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">可以在这儿回复</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">也可以直接和我联系</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">希望大家能配合我</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">谢谢</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span></p>
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作者: 瀑布 时间: 2007-11-29 16:16
有信箱里有你发的内容,北京的很多.让他们找你啊.
作者: zzf_120801 时间: 2007-11-29 16:21
上海的笔友也非常多
作者: 白首江湖 时间: 2007-11-29 16:24
潜力贴,留个脚印.
作者: yokoismine 时间: 2007-11-29 16:32
热门广告位招租[em01]
作者: yys300 时间: 2007-11-29 16:39
<p>章押司似乎在北京</p>
作者: 拾玖號人 时间: 2007-11-29 16:39
<p>好,最好《人民日报》再来个头版,并写出对英雄厂的不满,进而引起中央的关注,要求英雄厂改革,坛子里的兄弟们可以去收购,弄个CEO当当,我们可以提出新一轮的“100%赶超派克”~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
作者: yuhang 时间: 2007-11-29 16:43
有空去找你聊天
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-11-29 16:57
不好意思,我的手机不能看/发中文短信(我刚从国外回来)。可以打电话,办公室电话是64995238,找徐纯子(我是实习的,刚来几个星期。如果有人接了电话说没这个人,请别以为我是骗子。)最好给我写个邮件,我给您回电。<br/>
作者: 心影相随 时间: 2007-11-29 17:03
强帖留名[em01]
作者: 黑白子 时间: 2007-11-29 17:14
<p>这期报纸出来的时候,偶一定要多买几份~~</p>
作者: superqmh 时间: 2007-11-29 17:37
<p>玩笔的多数很低调,</p><p>而且基本都是某些行业的专业人士。</p><p>建议你看看论坛上关于笔迷的一些投票贴,你就能勾勒出这个群体的特性了</p>
作者: 钻石笔 时间: 2007-11-29 17:39
<p>楼主,一定要写上/反映出以下几点:</p><p>1:国人对国内的某些品牌感到非常可悲,比如公爵 毕加索之流,本身是国产的钢笔 但是非要打上外国的品牌,德国公爵, 法国毕加索,以利用部分人崇洋的心理作用赚钱。从这一点反映到当今中国作为发展中国家其他方面的弊病,这是非常危险和变态的心理</p><p>2:国人也非常喜欢真正的国产牌子 比如英雄, 但是英雄的质量越来越差,尤其是周恩来那个时代所为赶超派克,赶超英美弄出来的那个英雄100, 由于国企某些领导白痴 使用劣质塑料造成其口碑越来越差,从而你要利用这机会反映出国企内部存在的垃圾制度。</p><p></p>
作者: 拾玖號人 时间: 2007-11-29 17:41
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>钻石笔</i>在2007-11-29 17:39:18的发言:</b><br/><p>楼主,一定要写上/反映出以下几点:</p><p>1:国人对国内的某些品牌感到非常可悲,比如公爵 毕加索之流,本身是国产的钢笔 但是非要打上外国的品牌,德国公爵, 法国毕加索,以利用部分人崇洋的心理作用赚钱。从这一点反映到当今中国作为发展中国家其他方面的弊病,这是非常危险和变态的心理</p><p>2:国人也非常喜欢真正的国产牌子 比如英雄, 但是英雄的质量越来越差,尤其是周恩来那个时代所为赶超派克,赶超英美弄出来的那个英雄100, 由于国企某些领导白痴 使用劣质塑料造成其口碑越来越差,从而你要利用这机会反映出国企内部存在的垃圾制度。</p><p></p></div><p></p>除了强顶,还是强顶~~~~
作者: kenny9986 时间: 2007-11-29 17:43
<p>支持一下</p>
作者: onlywanggang 时间: 2007-11-29 17:44
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作者: 西浪 时间: 2007-11-29 17:58
<p>钻石笔兄说的绝对是无数中国笔迷的心声。</p><p>确实如果能借此机会表达笔迷们振兴民族工业之志的话,万幸万幸!</p>
作者: 蓝色牧 时间: 2007-11-29 18:24
<p>太好啦!如果你们的21世纪能刊登就更好了,那个我常买,日报有时候很快卖完了,中午下课就没,也没时间天天翻内容</p><p>如果登出,别忘通知一下</p>
作者: 雨后 时间: 2007-11-29 19:37
<p>很好的主题。</p><p>北京的笔友要把握哦。</p>
作者: 灵魂精华 时间: 2007-11-29 19:38
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作者: long37 时间: 2007-11-29 19:56
<p>呵呵,北京可以找老吕啊.</p>
作者: 100lism 时间: 2007-11-29 20:10
<p>从楼主的名字上看是MM?</p>
作者: sky_r6 时间: 2007-11-29 20:15
呼吁看心情、草人、YUHANG、jwbjcj等北京笔友上门辅导,上图!
作者: 亚当 时间: 2007-11-29 20:25
面不用很广,甚至可以写成系列报道,第一期不妨就叫做《没落的英雄》,一语双关。
作者: pop1231 时间: 2007-11-29 20:25
<p>不错啊!</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-11-29 21:58
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>钻石笔</i>在2007-11-29 17:39:18的发言:</b><br/><p>楼主,一定要写上/反映出以下几点:</p><p>1:国人对国内的某些品牌感到非常可悲,比如公爵 毕加索之流,本身是国产的钢笔 但是非要打上外国的品牌,德国公爵, 法国毕加索,以利用部分人崇洋的心理作用赚钱。从这一点反映到当今中国作为发展中国家其他方面的弊病,这是非常危险和变态的心理</p><p>2:国人也非常喜欢真正的国产牌子 比如英雄, 但是英雄的质量越来越差,尤其是周恩来那个时代所为赶超派克,赶超英美弄出来的那个英雄100, 由于国企某些领导白痴 使用劣质塑料造成其口碑越来越差,从而你要利用这机会反映出国企内部存在的垃圾制度。</p><p></p></div><p>千万别写,不然又变成一篇俗套文章了。好好玩笔,别牵涉什么政治</p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2007-11-29 22:00
英雄可以稍微说一点,其他什么公爵、毕加索的不提也罢
作者: endless 时间: 2007-11-29 22:23
留名。关注后续报道。。。
作者: icbto 时间: 2007-11-30 00:35
这帖子新鲜
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-11-30 07:58
<p>台灣某報有做過類似報導,一樣訪問台灣筆壇大老....以分層法將愛筆人分幾種,我忘在那看過,可找找看!</p><p>另外可寫成日本那種鋼筆達人,依每個收藏之不同,寫其感受,也不錯,可讓讀者看到珍品!</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-30 8:00:27编辑过]
作者: 黑白子 时间: 2007-11-30 08:27
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>西浪</i>在2007-11-29 17:58:30的发言:</b><br/><p>钻石笔兄说的绝对是无数中国笔迷的心声。</p><p>确实如果能借此机会表达笔迷们振兴民族工业之志的话,万幸万幸!</p></div><p>说句泼冷水的话——这些话登报?想都别想了,除非准备好了吃官司。</p>
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-11-30 11:06
谢谢各位的支持。因为文章将面对的读者大多不太了解这个话题,所以不会有太多专业的内容,比如英雄的没落(题目想得巧),最多简单一提, 而且必是从笔迷口中说出,而不是作为问题讨论。我想写的是爱笔的人,点在“迷”,和“玩”上。人比笔更有趣。这不是一篇反映问题的文章。<br/><br/>现在最好能有几位主动和我联系,好让我有处下手。大家不必谦虚,尽管自我推荐。只要您人在北京,爱笔,对"玩笔"有话说,有故事讲,不介意我拍一些您和您的笔的照片,就是我想找的。请给我办公室打电话,6499-5238。<br/><br/>(我与吴教授联系了,他最近比较忙,12月下旬才有空,可能有点晚。)<br/>
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-11-30 11:41
还有一个办法。如果各位北京的笔友感兴趣,可以大家一起约个时间(这个周末?),找个地方一块谈。这样的话,就是个笔友聚会,大家可以互相试笔,切磋,而我就从这个活动入手。这样文章也有意思。<br/><br/>如果觉得这样比较简单(这样我也方便,可以同时采访好几个人,还可以看到笔迷之间的交流),就请大家提一个时间,地点。<br/>
作者: sunnikower 时间: 2007-11-30 12:48
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作者: 草人 时间: 2007-11-30 13:45
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bigred</i>在2007-11-30 11:41:29的发言:</b><br/>还有一个办法。如果各位北京的笔友感兴趣,可以大家一起约个时间(这个周末?),找个地方一块谈。这样的话,就是个笔友聚会,大家可以互相试笔,切磋,而我就从这个活动入手。这样文章也有意思。<br/><br/>如果觉得这样比较简单(这样我也方便,可以同时采访好几个人,还可以看到笔迷之间的交流),就请大家提一个时间,地点。<br/></div><p>响应bigred的要求,我提供场地,(我家里)茶水(鸭子还没到手的10年野生生普),时间你们安排。</p><p>可以赶来聚会的朋友,请跟贴留名,不过,家里不是太大,人数可能没法太多,也就是5-6个人左右。</p>
作者: ice 时间: 2007-11-30 14:16
<p>严重支持!</p><p>我是新人,才中毒不久,也不在北京,纯支持了!</p>
作者: yuhang 时间: 2007-11-30 14:20
报名
作者: 童年印象 时间: 2007-11-30 17:12
<p>好事儿啊,</p><p>看心情,在北京否?应该报名参加!</p>[em01]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-11-30 17:34
<p>英雄沒有錯,是國內產業的習性問題,有次讀到國外的報導,大致說中國製造不用怕,提到中國產業的致命點,就是沒創新,只有降低質量大量的仿製,造成業內的低價競爭.....歐洲產品保持創新中國永遠趕不上!</p><p>政府也知問題,告訴產業要創新建自有品牌,就如這次7月降低退稅而言,政府僅告知創新可提高價格,進行產業升級就OK!但不知國內產業的習性與困難度,說升就升那有那麼簡單,上次看到國內寫的一篇文章寫的很有道理,這次真正產業升級的很少,而都採用直接壓榨工資,偷工減料的方式來維持自己的利潤....最後造成黑心產品,終危害國家整個產業!</p>
作者: 西浪 时间: 2007-11-30 17:58
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>黑白子</i>在2007-11-30 8:27:05的发言:</b><br/><p>说句泼冷水的话——这些话登报?想都别想了,除非准备好了吃官司。</p></div><p>不算泼冷水,当然钻石笔兄的话不能原样搬上去。字里行间体现一下心声就可,再说楼主还是在实习,如果搞不好,位置就丢了。</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-11-30 18:43
我对国产笔没什么心声,嘿嘿。国产毛笔还是颇需要圈点的。钢笔么,作为钢笔论坛版主,我只要知道中国也在生产钢笔就OK了。[em07]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-11-30 18:52
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2007-11-30 18:43:14的发言:</b><br/>我对国产笔没什么心声,嘿嘿。国产毛笔还是颇需要圈点的。钢笔么,作为钢笔论坛版主,我只要知道中国也在生产钢笔就OK了。[em07]</div><p></p>講一個我的笑話,我92年到上海,第一次到文具店,那時上海都是國營店多,下午4點大家都開始準備下班了,我晚點到,看到整窗的派克,才RMB2.5...就急急忙忙馬上指一指就挑一支灰的就請她開票(當時買東西只能隔著玻璃看)......心裡當時很竊喜以為挑到古董51...後來一看"哇~~~英雄"
作者: 草人 时间: 2007-11-30 23:36
<p>心情兄不知道有没有空,再加上dawei。</p><p>北京的笔友老中青三代都齐全了</p>
作者: 万宝鹈鹕鸟 时间: 2007-12-1 01:13
老中青三代,谁老,谁中,谁青?
作者: 草人 时间: 2007-12-1 07:40
心情老,yuhang中,我青。。。。。。。。。。。貌似可以这么分?
作者: 狷 时间: 2007-12-1 08:48
靠
作者: 黑白子 时间: 2007-12-2 10:04
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>woodylee</i>在2007-11-30 18:52:47的发言:</b><br/><p></p>講一個我的笑話,我92年到上海,第一次到文具店,那時上海都是國營店多,下午4點大家都開始準備下班了,我晚點到,看到整窗的派克,才RMB2.5...就急急忙忙馬上指一指就挑一支灰的就請她開票(當時買東西只能隔著玻璃看)......心裡當時很竊喜以為挑到古董51...後來一看"哇~~~英雄"</div><p>笑得我的肚子都疼了~~</p>[em01][em01]
作者: yuhang 时间: 2007-12-2 11:11
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>草人</i>在2007-12-1 7:40:00的发言:</b><br/>心情老,yuhang中,我青。。。。。。。。。。。貌似可以这么分?</div><p>我比你还青呢</p>[em03]
作者: 草人 时间: 2007-12-2 19:46
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>yuhang</i>在2007-12-2 11:11:22的发言:</b><br/><p>我比你还青呢</p>[em03]</div><p>2青顶一中吧。</p>
作者: che 时间: 2007-12-3 00:55
留个脚印现
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-3 11:06
现在只有草人和yuhang,对吗?什么时候合适呢?
作者: 幸福永生 时间: 2007-12-3 11:20
<p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>可能论坛上朋友主要有三种;</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>1、迷恋钢笔精美造型、工艺、制作水平,追求高贵极品的骨灰级钢笔玩家。</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>2、沉迷自己从前记忆,通过钢笔寻找曾经的过去的经典怀旧型钢笔玩家。</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>3、经常要使用钢笔的追求舒适手感的实用型钢笔玩家</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong> (领导,公司职员,公务员、教师、学生等)。</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>当然这三种情况往往融合在一起,有时根本无法分清楚。</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0938f7" size="3"><strong>我现在基本属于第二中,可能再过两三年会向第一种发展。</strong></font></p>[em07][em07][em07]
作者: 後羿 时间: 2007-12-3 11:32
<p>想不到还有记者调查这个,有点意思。</p><p>论坛上的笔友分布很光,东南西北都有。</p><p>玩笔时间,我相信大多数人都是在接触这个论坛后才开始的,但是少数的骨灰级玩家,据我所知则是至少十年以上。某骨灰玩家,甚至在学校门口摆过地摊去收笔。(希望那位行家别打我,我泄露一点点而已。 )嘿嘿</p><p>喜欢笔的人,大多数是出自小时候某种情结而引起的。在成年后的某个时间,有一点经济基础,就开始找回失去的一些东西。然后就一发不可收拾。另外喜欢钢笔的朋友,很多都是有比较细腻的感情,喜欢精致的物品。不过在实际中,正如楼上的兄弟说的,也分几派,有纯收藏派的,有实用派的,有两者结合派的。不一而足,这和人的性格,已经经济条件有关系。</p><p>至于聚会,那要看地方了,象北京上海这种大城市,人比较多,那聚集比较容易。 小地方知音难觅,自然不会多。这一点,中国还不能和国外笔。国外的笔收藏基础比较深,人多,市场也大。中国还是在起步而已。台湾地区这都比我们要热闹。</p><p></p>
作者: 华孚 时间: 2007-12-3 17:01
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>钻石笔</i>在2007-11-29 17:39:18的发言:</b><br/><p>楼主,一定要写上/反映出以下几点:</p><p>1:国人对国内的某些品牌感到非常可悲,比如公爵 毕加索之流,本身是国产的钢笔 但是非要打上外国的品牌,德国公爵, 法国毕加索,以利用部分人崇洋的心理作用赚钱。从这一点反映到当今中国作为发展中国家其他方面的弊病,这是非常危险和变态的心理</p><p>2:国人也非常喜欢真正的国产牌子 比如英雄, 但是英雄的质量越来越差,尤其是周恩来那个时代所为赶超派克,赶超英美弄出来的那个英雄100, 由于国企某些领导白痴 使用劣质塑料造成其口碑越来越差,从而你要利用这机会反映出国企内部存在的垃圾制度。</p><p></p></div><p></p>这个一定要提一提,建议致顶。
作者: 华孚 时间: 2007-12-3 17:09
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>草人</i>在2007-11-30 13:45:45的发言:</b><br/><p>响应bigred的要求,我提供场地,(我家里)茶水(鸭子还没到手的10年野生生普),时间你们安排。</p><p>可以赶来聚会的朋友,请跟贴留名,不过,家里不是太大,人数可能没法太多,也就是5-6个人左右。</p></div><p>这么巧,我出差在外--埃塞俄比亚。 </p><p>笔友聚会,可否坐飞机回来参加啊! </p><p>谢谢! </p><p> </p>[em07][em07][em07][em07][em07][em07]
作者: che 时间: 2007-12-4 02:04
我是属于2,3的结合,哈哈。暂时还没那个实力到1。<br/>
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-4 14:25
大家有什么玩笔的轶事(比如在学校门口摆摊收笔)吗?<br/>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-4 15:03
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bigred</i>在2007-12-4 14:25:10的发言:</b><br/>大家有什么玩笔的轶事(比如在学校门口摆摊收笔)吗?<br/></div><p></p>中國不是鋼筆的發源地....如收到的也是一群無用之英雄!
作者: spinon 时间: 2007-12-4 15:07
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bigred</i>在2007-12-4 14:25:10的发言:</b><br/>大家有什么玩笔的轶事(比如在学校门口摆摊收笔)吗?<br/></div><p></p>墨水笔和其它的收藏不一样,这种方法收不到好东西。
作者: fxchina 时间: 2007-12-4 15:11
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>草人</i>在2007-11-30 13:45:45的发言:</b><br/><p>响应bigred的要求,我提供场地,(我家里)茶水(鸭子还没到手的10年野生生普),时间你们安排。</p><p>可以赶来聚会的朋友,请跟贴留名,不过,家里不是太大,人数可能没法太多,也就是5-6个人左右。</p></div><p></p><p>呵呵报个名,不过最近很忙,不一定有空。。。看大家定下来时间再说吧</p><p>没啥好东西,只有几只小乌龟。。。</p>
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-4 15:18
我们已经定在明天上午了,如果有空,请尽快和我/草人联系。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-4 17:09
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bigred</i>在2007-12-4 15:18:01的发言:</b><br/>我们已经定在明天上午了,如果有空,请尽快和我/草人联系。</div><p></p>不找我[em04]
作者: superqmh 时间: 2007-12-4 17:15
<p>明天在北京啊。</p><p>woodlylee作为龙鸟限量派的代表,要履行好自己的代表职责。</p><p>这是举什么旗走什么路的问题</p>[em07][em07]
作者: benben 时间: 2007-12-4 17:42
<p>在woody那里,日军已经战胜德军。</p>
作者: superqmh 时间: 2007-12-4 17:43
<p>只要别是意大利人就可以的。</p><p>意大利人在二战的口碑可不怎么样</p>
作者: spinon 时间: 2007-12-4 18:35
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>woodylee</i>在2007-12-4 17:09:19的发言:</b><br/><p></p>不找我[em04]</div><p></p>W兄,您在北京?想见你一面。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-4 19:20
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>benben</i>在2007-12-4 17:42:01的发言:</b><br/><p>在woody那里,日军已经战胜德军。</p></div><p></p><p>最近都是進日系多,有之前的Namiki初秋& URUSHI</p><p>現SAILOR長刀研竹筆2支M尖,其中一支是加"蓋"Emperor</p><p>中屋URUSHI,白金古鍛金,還有2008三月才會到的夠牛的博士牛角筆</p><p>受瓷面錶<font color="#666666">GLASHUTTE ORIGINAL </font>的影響,德系的還想要一支MB 4810贊助人POMPADOUR,跟錶一樣只是想~~~~</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-12-4 20:53:57编辑过]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-4 19:24
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>spinon</i>在2007-12-4 18:35:29的发言:</b><br/><p></p>W兄,您在北京?想见你一面。</div><p></p>我近上海...最近買幾瓶墨水,有空開瓶DE ATRAMENTIS的紅酒墨水請您喝喝!
作者: 後羿 时间: 2007-12-4 23:26
<p>吕兄和木子李兄有所不知了。做出在学校门口收笔的举动,收到好货与否还是其次,关键是那份痴.</p><p>这位大侠是论坛上为人熟知的,中外古董老笔的大行家.哈哈</p>
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作者: 星星 时间: 2007-12-5 11:46
<p>我对笔的喜好好象完全是天生的,不是为了什么美好中的记忆而去奋起,倒是有点收笔之后有记忆.......高中我就不用墨水笔的了.但对笔的喜好从初中就没停过.</p><p>觉得大致属于第一种,但经济不允许上什么骨灰级的东东,但很在意笔的生产工艺,美感之类</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-12-5 11:51:01编辑过]
作者: benben 时间: 2007-12-5 12:50
<p>星星太谦虚了.</p>
作者: dogkiller 时间: 2007-12-5 13:04
猩猩把PROUST都出了,不知在玩什么东西。。。。。。
作者: BA4HL 时间: 2007-12-5 15:00
《中国日报》的记者真的会关注这个并不热门的话题吗?楼主的名字是化名吧?
作者: zzf_120801 时间: 2007-12-5 15:22
楼主开始写报道了吗?是否精彩,我搬张凳子等着看
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-11 19:30
原本想写特稿,写完之后觉得局限性比较大,不爱笔的人看不下去。和采访也有关。最后还是用第一人称,从我自己的角度写了一篇爱笔的文章。也提到论坛,以及大家在论坛上说的一些话。当然也提到了我和草人,yuhang见面的事。文章叫Pen Friends Are My Favourite Kinds of People,明天在中国日报"Hotpot"版登.<br/>中国日报网站上也能查到,搜“hotpot"或者 Xu Chunzi 就能找到。我明天再贴一个地址。<br/>谢谢各位支持,特别是草人和yuhang.<br/>
作者: 苏明 时间: 2007-12-11 21:07
<p>买一份看看</p><p></p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-11 21:17
標題---中國鋼筆達人-草人
作者: jingles 时间: 2007-12-12 10:08
楼上的太强了....哈哈哈哈[em01]
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-12 10:44
今天没登。昨天晚上说登这个来着。不好意思。等登了我再说吧。
作者: yuhang 时间: 2007-12-12 13:00
早上买了一份,找了半天,原来没登,没关系,等着
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-14 11:43
今天登了,第20版hotpot column.<br/>
作者: zzf_120801 时间: 2007-12-14 11:51
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bigred</i>在2007-12-14 11:43:48的发言:</b><br/>今天登了,第20版hotpot column.<br/></div><p></p>是在《中国日报》上吗?第几期?
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-14 12:22
是。《中国日报》,是个日报,今天(12月14日)登的。
作者: bigred 时间: 2007-12-14 12:31
在这儿也能读到<br/><br/>http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2007-12/14/content_6320284.htm
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-12-14 13:04
<p>
en friends are my favorite kinds of people<br/>By Xu Chunzi<br/>Updated: 2007-12-14 07:08 <br/>One of my many regrets is that I was born too late to be a turn-of-the-century satin-wearing, grape-eating aesthete. I could wear satin and eat grapes all I want in the industrial gloom of suburban Beijing, but it's just not the same.</p><p>My romantic preoccupation with beauty reaches a climax with fountain pens. Every so often, I take a break from my humdrum secular thoughts and thank God for them.</p><p>I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't love them as much as me. The unique sensation of drawing a pen slowly across a piece of paper, leaving behind a trail of ink recording the exact motion of my hand is, to my mind, a miracle.</p><p>Although the electronic revolution has made pen lovers a rare species, we hold onto the objects of our affection as if they were swords. To find out more, I recently got to meet two fountain pen aficionados.</p><p>In his Beijing apartment decked out in vintage finery, 30-year-old IT manager Lin Mian held up a Parker Duofold "vacuum" fountain pen, a symbol of the United States' golden age.</p><p>In the afternoon sun, the pen shone like a lit-up skyscraper. Dipping the nib into a bottle of ink, Lin penned a classic poem and for a brief moment, relived the glories and opulence of the 1950s. As we admired his Parker Duofold medium antique color series, our bulging eyes were reflected upside down in the magnifying glass.</p><p>Another pen pal, 23-year-old computer-engineering graduate student Yu Hang, let me try his Parker Duofold. Gratefully, I took the pen and tried to pull the cap off. Yu jumped up from his 300-year-old Ming-Dynasty chair and shrieked. It had a twist-off top and I might as well have stuck a pin through Yu's heart.</p><p>Computer-savvy purists like Yu and Lin are rife at the China Fountain Pen Forum - my mothership. It's the largest online community for fountain pen lovers in China. These people give color and shape to something that I always thought was nonverbal and nonrational.</p><p>One posting described writing with the Pelikan M400 as "a sensation akin to peeling an apple with a sharp pocket knife"; another said the Lamy 2000 is like "skating, gliding on ice"; while the Parker 75 is "a true independent, a fearless warrior clad in golden armor".</p><p>It's a relief to know there are others with ambitions of designing the perfect fountain pen, people who cannot help but take the fall of local brands personally, and those who have a seemingly strange compulsion to take extensive notes at boring office meetings.</p><p>As devotees of the fountain pen, we don't consider ourselves calligraphers. While many have practiced it, most of us, I suspect, would be happy to draw circles all day. After all, the fountain pen was not designed for Chinese characters.</p><p>I am a fountain pen addict but I don't need help, just understanding.</p><p>(China Daily 12/14/2007 page20)<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/></p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-12-14 13:05
写的挺有china daily的风格的。就是好像稍微有些太感性了点。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-12-14 14:54
內涵少了點~~~~
作者: sky_r6 时间: 2007-12-14 15:29
<p>昨晚去看我侄女,她正在写初中作业,顺带问了我几道英语题,我发现我一题都看不懂。</p>
作者: zzf_120801 时间: 2007-12-14 15:34
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>sky_r6</i>在2007-12-14 15:29:34的发言:</b><br/><p>昨晚去看我侄女,她正在写初中作业,顺带问了我几道英语题,我发现我一题都看不懂。</p></div><p></p>学校出来多年,平时不碰英文,都忘光了?!
作者: zzf_120801 时间: 2007-12-14 15:54
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2007-12-14 13:04:59的发言:</b><br/><p>
en friends are my favorite kinds of people<br/>By Xu Chunzi<br/>Updated: 2007-12-14 07:08 <br/>One of my many regrets is that I was born too late to be a turn-of-the-century satin-wearing, grape-eating aesthete. I could wear satin and eat grapes all I want in the industrial gloom of suburban Beijing, but it's just not the same.</p><p>My romantic preoccupation with beauty reaches a climax with fountain pens. Every so often, I take a break from my humdrum secular thoughts and thank God for them.</p><p>I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't love them as much as me. The unique sensation of drawing a pen slowly across a piece of paper, leaving behind a trail of ink recording the exact motion of my hand is, to my mind, a miracle.</p><p>Although the electronic revolution has made pen lovers a rare species, we hold onto the objects of our affection as if they were swords. To find out more, I recently got to meet two fountain pen aficionados.</p><p>In his Beijing apartment decked out in vintage finery, 30-year-old IT manager Lin Mian held up a Parker Duofold "vacuum" fountain pen, a symbol of the United States' golden age.</p><p>In the afternoon sun, the pen shone like a lit-up skyscraper. Dipping the nib into a bottle of ink, Lin penned a classic poem and for a brief moment, relived the glories and opulence of the 1950s. As we admired his Parker Duofold medium antique color series, our bulging eyes were reflected upside down in the magnifying glass.</p><p>Another pen pal, 23-year-old computer-engineering graduate student Yu Hang, let me try his Parker Duofold. Gratefully, I took the pen and tried to pull the cap off. Yu jumped up from his 300-year-old Ming-Dynasty chair and shrieked. It had a twist-off top and I might as well have stuck a pin through Yu's heart.</p><p>Computer-savvy purists like Yu and Lin are rife at the China Fountain Pen Forum - my mothership. It's the largest online community for fountain pen lovers in China. These people give color and shape to something that I always thought was nonverbal and nonrational.</p><p>One posting described writing with the Pelikan M400 as "a sensation akin to peeling an apple with a sharp pocket knife"; another said the Lamy 2000 is like "skating, gliding on ice"; while the Parker 75 is "a true independent, a fearless warrior clad in golden armor".</p><p>It's a relief to know there are others with ambitions of designing the perfect fountain pen, people who cannot help but take the fall of local brands personally, and those who have a seemingly strange compulsion to take extensive notes at boring office meetings.</p><p>As devotees of the fountain pen, we don't consider ourselves calligraphers. While many have practiced it, most of us, I suspect, would be happy to draw circles all day. After all, the fountain pen was not designed for Chinese characters.</p><p>I am a fountain pen addict but I don't need help, just understanding.</p><p>(China Daily 12/14/2007 page20)<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/></p></div><p></p>感觉写得象蜻蜓点水,太泛泛;不够深入,作者大概不是笔友吧?没多少真情实感。
作者: endless 时间: 2007-12-14 20:22
同感。
作者: BA4HL 时间: 2007-12-16 11:23
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>woodylee</i>在2007-12-14 14:54:39的发言:</b><br/>內涵少了點~~~~</div><p></p><p>有同感。</p><p>不过,能在《中国日报》电子版面上提及这样的话题已经不容易了。这必经只是一个开始。先前我还有一点怀疑楼主对于刊发此稿的真实性,现在看来,应该向楼主致歉。</p><p>估计是主编限制了此稿刊发的字数和版面,我总觉得文稿更像一篇简单的日记或随笔,内涵泛泛了一些。</p>
作者: mr_chenlei 时间: 2007-12-17 13:48
<p>最近刚去了趟美国回来,错过了这次与北京笔友相聚的机会,悔啊!</p><p>拜读了楼主的大作。写得不错。虽然的确有一点泛——如果能更多反映笔友、笔迷的内心,会更好一些——但在这样的版面和篇幅,能写成这样,也不易了。感谢楼主!</p><p>恕我不才,对英文语法提一点疑问,别怪我较真,也请各位精通英文的笔友赐教:</p><p>第三段开头“I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't love them as much as me”,是否应为“... love them as much as I do”呢?</p><p></p>
作者: yifei 时间: 2007-12-17 19:37
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e6ecf9;">钢笔朋友都是我的最爱种人</font></span>
<br/><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">By Xu Chunzi</span></span>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">徐chunzi</span></span>
<br/><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Updated: 2007-12-14 07:08</span></span>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">更新时间: 07年12月14日7时08分</span></span>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">One of my many regrets is that I was born too late to be a turn-of-the-century satin-wearing, grape-eating aesthete.</span>一,我的许多遗憾的是,我出生太晚以至于无法转机先进的系统,世纪缎子穿,葡萄吃aesthete 。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">I could wear satin and eat grapes all I want in the industrial gloom of suburban Beijing, but it's just not the same.</span>我可以穿缎和葡萄吃所有我想在工业灰暗的北京郊区,但它的公正并不相同。</span>
</p><p align="left"><img id="666297" title="" src="http://72.14.203.104/attachement/jpg/site1/20071214/0013729e4a9d08cc08da2f.jpg" align="left" border="0" sourcename="本地文件" sourcedescription="编辑提供的本地文件" md5="" style="WIDTH: 210px; HEIGHT: 119px;" alt=""/></p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">My romantic preoccupation with beauty reaches a climax with fountain pens.</span>我的浪漫只专注于美容达到了高潮与钢笔。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Every so often, I take a break from my humdrum secular thoughts and thank God for them.</span>一次,我借此摆脱单调乏味,我的世俗想法,并感谢上帝给他们。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't love them as much as me.</span>我不明白为什么世界其余地区不爱他们多箱。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">The unique sensation of drawing a pen slowly across a piece of paper, leaving behind a trail of ink recording the exact motion of my hand is, to my mind, a miracle.</span>独特的感觉绘画用笔慢慢地横跨在一张纸上,并留下了一条笔墨记录下准确的议案,我的手是,在我看来,是一个奇迹。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Although the electronic revolution has made pen lovers a rare species, we hold onto the objects of our affection as if they were swords.</span>虽然电子革命作出了钢笔爱好者难得的物种,我们守住对象的情感如同自己的刀剑。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">To find out more, I recently got to meet two fountain pen aficionados.</span>要了解更多信息,我最近得到满足两个自来水笔爱好者。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">In his Beijing apartment decked out in vintage finery, 30-year-old IT manager Lin Mian held up a Parker Duofold "vacuum" fountain pen, a symbol of the United States' golden age.</span>他在北京的公寓上挂满了在老式finery ,今年30岁的资讯科技经理林勉举行了帕克duofold "真空" ,自来水笔,象征着美国的黄金时代。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">In the afternoon sun, the pen shone like a lit-up skyscraper.</span>在下午的太阳,就大笔一挥,照耀着像一个烈科了摩天大楼。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Dipping the nib into a bottle of ink, Lin penned a classic poem and for a brief moment, relived the glories and opulence of the 1950s.</span>浸渍的笔尖到一瓶墨水,林亲笔古典诗歌,并作短暂的时刻, relived的辉煌与富裕的20世纪50年代。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">As we admired his Parker Duofold medium antique color series, our bulging eyes were reflected upside down in the magnifying glass.</span>正如我们佩服他帕克duofold中等古董彩色系列,我们鼓胀的眼睛反映颠倒,在放大镜。</span>
</p><p align="right"><img id="666302" title="" src="http://72.14.203.104/attachement/jpg/site1/20071214/0013729e4a9d08cc08df30.jpg" align="right" border="0" sourcename="本地文件" sourcedescription="编辑提供的本地文件" md5="" style="WIDTH: 118px; HEIGHT: 284px;" alt=""/></p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Another pen pal, 23-year-old computer-engineering graduate student Yu Hang, let me try his Parker Duofold.</span>另一笔Pal表示,今年23岁的电脑工程研究生俞航,让我试试他的派克duofold 。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Gratefully, I took the pen and tried to pull the cap off.</span>感恩,我把钢笔,并试图拉帽起飞。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Yu jumped up from his 300-year-old Ming-Dynasty chair and shrieked.</span>俞跳了,从他的300岁高龄的明清代主持会议,并缩小。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">It had a twist-off top and I might as well have stuck a pin through Yu's heart.</span>它有一个捻过顶,我倒不如看样子针插入玉的心。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">Computer-savvy purists like Yu and Lin are rife at the China Fountain Pen Forum - my mothership.</span>计算机熟练单纯喜欢玉,林正盛行于中国自来水笔论坛-我的母船。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">It's the largest online community for fountain pen lovers in China.</span>它的最大的在线社区,为自来水笔情人在中国。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">These people give color and shape to something that I always thought was nonverbal and nonrational.</span>这些人,让颜色和形状的东西,我一直以为被非言语和非理性。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">One posting described writing with the Pelikan M400 as "a sensation akin to peeling an apple with a sharp pocket knife"; another said the Lamy 2000 is like "skating, gliding on ice"; while the Parker 75 is "a true independent, a fearless warrior clad in golden armor".</span>一个帖子形容写作与pelikan m400为"轰动类似于剥皮苹果与锐利小刀" ,另一个说,拉米于2000年,是像"溜冰,滑上冰" ,而帕克75 ,是"一个真正独立的,无畏的勇士身着黄金盔甲" 。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">It's a relief to know there are others with ambitions of designing the perfect fountain pen, people who cannot help but take the fall of local brands personally, and those who have a seemingly strange compulsion to take extensive notes at boring office meetings.</span>它的一个救济知道还有其他与野心的设计完美的自来水笔的人,就不能不采取秋天的本地品牌个人,而那些有一个看似奇怪的强迫之下,采取了广泛的笔记,镗办公会议。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">As devotees of the fountain pen, we don't consider ourselves calligraphers.</span>作为信徒的自来水笔,我们并不认为自己是书法家。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">While many have practiced it, most of us, I suspect, would be happy to draw circles all day.</span>虽然很多人练起,我们大部分人来说,我怀疑,当然会感到高兴,提请各界一整天。</span>
<span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">After all, the fountain pen was not designed for Chinese characters.</span>毕竟,自来水笔的目的,并非为中文字符。</span>
</p><p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">I am a fountain pen addict but I don't need help, just understanding.</span>我是一个自来水笔成瘾者,但我并不需要帮助时,只是了解。</span>
</p><p align="right"><span><span class="google-src-text" style="DIRECTION: ltr; TEXT-ALIGN: left;">(China Daily 12/14/2007 page20)</span> (中国日报12/14/2007 page20 )</span></p>
作者: yifei 时间: 2007-12-17 19:38
<p>我讨厌英语$#$%$#^#!@~$#@!^^^$%$^$#%$!~@#@!~@$#@%*&((*__(*(</p>
作者: yuhang 时间: 2007-12-17 20:46
<p>我想起了金山快译</p>
作者: 华孚 时间: 2008-1-13 15:12
还好,勉强可以看到一些
作者: 华孚 时间: 2008-1-13 15:13
这叫“只言片语”
作者: bobliangan 时间: 2008-1-13 20:55
其实,我也很喜欢笔~!!!而且一口气买了好几支
作者: penbbs 时间: 2008-1-13 20:59
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