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发表于 2005-4-28 10:06 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
<B><FONT size=5>Attack Of The Clones - Part 1
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=3>by Jim Mamoulides 4/30/04</FONT></B>



<><FONT size=2><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/HeroLogo.jpg"></FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial size=4><B>The Times, They Are A Changin'</B></FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial size=2><B><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_10.jpg" border=1></B></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=3><B></B></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 100 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial>As I write this, the pen world is changing. The last two major USA pen manufacturers are showing signs of serious weakness, one to the point of closing. A. T. Cross, the oldest continuously operating pen manufacturer in the USA, recently has been faced with downsizing and is considering offshoring manufacturing of some of their lines. </FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial>Early in 2004, Sheaffer, in business nearly a hundred years, announced that it would close its Ft. Madison, Iowa manufacturing plant in two years. Sheaffer had already been experimenting with offshoring, including some low cost pens and ink manufacturing. Both companies cited declining sales in fine pens. Cross seems to have plans to shrink and split manufacturing between the USA and offshore sources. Sheaffer appears to be on the way to becoming a brand, rather than a company.</FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial>Where is the offshore manufacturing going? Much of it may be headed to China. Cross admits this, and some of their new low end products may start coming with "Made in China" labels. Sheaffer, owned by BIC, may turn into a sourced product. </FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial size=2><B><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_11.jpg" border=1></B></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=3><B></B></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 616 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial>Why China? Fountain pens are still widely used in China, much as in Europe, and China has several pen manufacturers that make good quality products for domestic consumption and at a low price. Some of these pens are being imported to the USA, especially those made by the Hero Pen Company, in Shanghai, China. </FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial>Today's Hero Group is a diverse multi-industry company, with thirteen subsidiaries, including the manufacture of pens, musical instruments, appliances, windows, and doors. It was founded in 1931 as the Huafu Pen Factory and in 1966 was renamed Hero Pen Factory. Hero pen brands include, Hero, Doctor, Happiness, Huafu, Xinming, Guanleming, Xinhua, and Gentleman.</FONT></P>
<><FONT face=Arial size=4><B>The Sincerest Form Of Flattery</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_07.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 100 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>Copies of Parker pens have been made all over the world, and none has been copied more than the Parker 51. Since its introduction in 1941, the Parker 51 has been the symbol of the modern age of fountain pens, spanning the end of the Golden Age through the advent of the cartridge / converter pens that are most common today. The Parker 51 was not only immensely popular, but it commanded a high price, a sure magnet for subtle and flagrant copying of the design. Many major pen manufacturers rushed to make something similar in style to the new design leader, but none proved as successful and enduring. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>Outright copying is not a new development, and not limited to the Rolex watches that turn up in Times Square in New York City. Several pen companies in China made almost part for part copies of several Parker models, but the Parker 51 was the king of the clones. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_02.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 616 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>Some of these clones suffer badly in the quality department, being made cheaply and with little regard to fit and finish. Others are amazing in their detail and care in manufacture, indicating a real desire to make a good product, copy or not.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>Like others, Hero made Parker 51 copies, and at both quality endpoints. I had the chance recently to sample a Hero 616, an inexpensive Parker 51 knockoff, and a Hero 100, a more refined pen.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=4><B>Performance</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_04.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 616 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>The two samples, a Hero 616 and Hero 100, are both Aerometric type copies of the Parker 51. These are older models, and may no longer be in production. I was able to try out both of them extensively as daily users and compared them with two Parkers, a black and a Flighter Aerometric. This gave me the chance not only to review the pens, but also compare them to the original.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_03.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Caps, Left to Right: Parker 51 Flighter / Hero 100 Green / Hero 616 Green</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>The Hero 616 is a cheap pen. Let's get that out at the top. At a distance, it looks like a green Parker 51 with a highly polished stainless cap. Up close, it has the stamped and slapped together look of cheap toys. The cap actually looks like it may be chrome plated, including the jewel and clip, or a high chrome metal, but definitely not stainless. The lightly engraved pattern of a set of lines and a blank space breaks up the shine, adding some interest to the cap, but it's still a tad gaudy. The fit and finish are fair, with with parts not fitting flush together and no real attention to detail. It looks assembled from parts however they came together. The Aerometric filler looks sloppy and has rough edges. The quality step in the manufacturing process must have been, "Does it write? Ship it!"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_08.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Open, Showing Aerometric Fillers
Top to Bottom: Hero 616 Green / Hero 100 Green / Parker 51 Flighter</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3>The pen is essentially the same dimensions a vintage 51 Aerometric, about 5 5/8 inches long capped and 6 1/8 inches posted. It's lighter in weight, as both the metal cap and plastic barrel feel a little lighter than their Parker counterparts. Filling is classic Aerometric, unscrew the barrel, stick the nose in the ink bottle, press the bar four to six times for a good fill, wipe, and write. The clutch ring serves as a slender ink window, a nice touch that warns you when the tank is nearly empty.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_01.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hooded Nib Detail, Left to Right: Hero 616 Green / Hero 100 Green / Parker 51 Flighter</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3>I found the extra fine firm nib a tad dry. Its silver color may mean stainless. It wrote a smooth, even line, but with a lot of feedback. No scratchiness, but this is churned butter, not the really smooth stuff. I wrote with it unposted because the cap would not post without the use of excessive force. Not sure what the problem is, but it points back to how the pen was made.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>The Hero 100 is a definite step up. Every aspect of the pen, essentially the same fundamental design as the 616, including the clutch ring ink window, is executed in a much more high quality way. Unlike the 616, which is like a Times Square US $20.00 Rolex, the 100 looks more like a take on the real thing, with improvements. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_06.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hooded Nibs, Left to Right: Hero 100 Green / Hero 616 Green / Parker 51 Flighter</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>The cap is a heavier brushed stainless, the clip is a well executed gold plate, and the cap jewel though amber, looks right. All the parts fit together correctly. Not quite as well as the original, but a respectable job. The barrel looks suspiciously like the 616 at first. In fact, it looks identical, except for the hint of gold peeking out from the hood. Unscrewed the barrel reveals a much better looking Aerometric filler. This one is much better made. The filler unit is well constructed and operates like the original. </FONT><FONT face=Arial>Overall, a much better job.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3>Interestingly, the Hero 100 is a little shorter, about 5 3/8 inches long capped and 5 7/8 inches posted. The cap stays on when posted, too. Perhaps the fingers in the 616 cap don't spread out enough and the cap rides too high. The 100 is slightly heavier, owing to the better quality cap. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3>Filling is exactly the same, though the action is better, as expected from the better constructed Aerometric unit. It looks like it has a metal breather tube. This one writes a little wetter and smoother, a fine / extra fine firm nib. More like the real thing, but not quite there. Putting down the 100 and picking up a Parker 51 is a jolt. Though the 100 is a good writer, it's not quite at the Parker level. Good, but not great. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3><IMG src="http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/Hero51_05.jpg" border=1></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>Hero 616 Green - China</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=3>Considering that Hero 51 copies can be had for very low prices, they make really good knock around pens. I wouldn't waste money on the 616 and other low quality copies unless you simply have to have anything that looks like a Parker 51. The appeal is the same as collecting cheap Rolexes. What's the point? On the other hand, the 100, and many newer Hero pens are quite well made and write very nicely, representing a real bargain, and may herald the eventual Wal-Marting of the pen business. Let's hope that last thought remains just a thought!</FONT></P>
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发表于 2005-5-30 23:15 | 只看该作者
<>没有谁介绍啊</P><>是自己无意中发现还有这么个好玩的地方</P><>就来凑凑热闹 ^_^</P>
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发表于 2005-5-28 22:50 | 只看该作者
谢谢非非网友的补充和更正!特别是最后一句,我认为你译的有道理,请继续指正.
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发表于 2005-5-28 20:04 | 只看该作者
<><FONT size=3>Let's hope that last thought remains just a thought!</FONT></P>
<><FONT size=3>意思应该是:我们希望这最后一个想法仅仅只是一个想法而已(不要成为现实)</FONT></P>
<><FONT size=3>呵 不知道对不</FONT></P>[em04]
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发表于 2005-5-28 19:56 | 只看该作者
<>No scratchiness, but this is churned butter, not the really smooth stuff.(不明白)</P>
<>大概意思是:不挂纸,但不是真正的顺滑.</P>
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发表于 2005-5-28 11:49 | 只看该作者
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mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-alt: 12.0pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><B>真诚的恭维</B><p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>对派克笔的仿制遍布全球,尤其以派克51最甚。派克51自1941年推出后,它就成为自来水笔时代的代名词。通过引进今天常见的旋转笔筒,它引领了整个黄金时代。派克 51不仅立刻家喻户晓,而且代表着高价格,这一点导致了对它的设计进行精细和公开的仿冒。许多大钢笔厂纷纷向市场推出了相似型号的产品,希望成为新一轮设计的领军人物,但都芸花一现,无一成功。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>直接的仿制可不是一个新玩意,这并不只限于被发现于纽约的时代广场的Rolex手表事件。中国的几家钢笔企业几乎一模一样地仿制了派克的几个品牌,其中对派克51的仿制简直登峰造极。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>一些仿制品品质拙劣,其粗制滥造而不考虑产品适用性和完整性。其它一些仿制品则有着令人吃惊的精细品质,表达出一种真正的愿望:即要生产一个好产品,无论是出于仿制还是开发。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>与其他企业一样,英雄也仿制了派克51,并推出了高端和低端两个产品。我最近有幸获得了英雄616样品,这是一款价格低廉的派克51粗仿品;而英雄100的样品,则是一款仿制相当精细的钢笔。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-line-height-alt: 12.0pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><B>性能</B><p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>英雄616和100这两款样品,都沿袭了派克51的吸水内胆。两者都是老型号,也许已不在生产了。我从一名每天频繁的使用者角度对其测试,并与另两款派克笔,一个是黑色内胆,而另一个是压片式内胆相比较。这不仅使我有机会重温了这几款笔,而且比较了它们的渊源。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>英雄616是一款便宜货。让我们首先说它吧。从远处看,它像是有着刨光笔帽的派克51。近观之,从它的压刻纹看,像是一个廉价的玩具。看上去,笔帽像是镀铬的,包括帽钻和笔夹,或许都是由一种高铬金属制成,但绝不是不锈钢。笔帽上浅刻的线型图案和空白的交替,散射了光泽,为其增添了几分魅力,但总有些华而不实。如果不注意到细节,只看各部分适当的组装的话,其适用性和完善性还可以。它更像是一些装配在一起的零件而非一个整体。其笔胆套看上去臃肿且有毛边。这种质量档次在制造业中被戏称为:“这玩意能写吗?快扔掉!”。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>616的笔胆有着旧款51相同的尺寸,插上笔帽大约长5 5/8英寸,笔帽倒插时6 1/8英寸。比起派克51来,其笔帽和塑杆,以及整体重量都较轻。装填墨水是经典的负压式,旋出笔杆,将笔尖浸入墨水瓶中,按压弹片四到六次即可填完,然后擦干,就可书写了。透明环是用作一个细小的墨水观察窗口,可提醒你墨水快用完了。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>我发现,616的笔尖相当坚固而易发干。其笔尖的银白色表明,是不锈钢材料。它书写起来顺滑,尤其是直线,但有一些回带。No scratchiness, but this is churned butter, not the really smooth stuff.(不明白)。我书写时并未戴上笔帽,因为不格外用力,笔帽是戴不上去的。不知原因何在,但这表明了这款笔的生产状况。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>英雄100的确是一个提升。该笔的每一方面,尽管和616是在同样的基础上设计的,但包括墨水观察窗口在内,执行的是一条高品质路线。与616不同,100像是时代广场上20美元一只的Rolex手表,看上去却像那么回事,还有些新意。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>100的笔帽由份量稍重的刨光不锈钢制成,笔尖是镀金的,帽钻居然是琥珀色的,看上去不错。所有的零件装配适当。虽无原厂派克精良,但值得称赞。乍一看其笔杆,让人怀疑是616。事实上,除了从笔尖上隐隐闪现出的金色外,看起来是一样的。旋开笔杆,看到的是做工不错的内胆。这可是制造得最好的一部分。装填部分构造完好,可与原厂笔媲美。总之,是一个好产品。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>有趣的是,英雄100比51稍短,戴上笔帽大约5 3/8英寸,倒插时约5 7/8英寸。倒插时笔帽也能站住。也许616笔帽中的抓簧未完全伸张开来,使笔帽骑得太高的原故。100略微重些,归功于质量较好的笔帽。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left>装填过程完全一样,虽效果要好些,这来自于构造良好的笔胆。它看上去有一个金属吸管。这款笔有着极精细且坚固的笔尖,书写起来既润泽又顺滑。它更像真货,但并不是没有瑕疵。放下100后,又拿起派克51时,会感到:尽管100是一款好笔,但还没达到派克笔的层次。优秀,但不是最好。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt">考虑到派克51仿制品价钱非常低,它确实给周边的钢笔业带来了冲击。除非只想要一个看上去像派克51的东西,否则我绝不会把钱花在616这类劣质的仿制品上。我要的是和便宜的Rolexes手表一类的产品。关键在哪呢?从另一方面看,诸如英雄100,以及许多英雄的新产品,它们不仅工艺精湛,书写流利,而且价格便宜,势必领先成为钢笔业界的沃尔-玛特。我希望,一个理念只有绵绵不断的存在下去才称之为思想。<p></p></P><P 0cm 0cm 0pt"><p><FONT face="Book Antiqua"> </FONT></p></P>
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发表于 2005-5-25 11:54 | 只看该作者
不懂
20#
发表于 2005-4-29 10:53 | 只看该作者
colorwall兄的中西医结合理论见解不错,我现在白天用全钢hero100,简洁、干练;晚上用黑色charleston,睡得香!
19#
发表于 2005-4-28 22:18 | 只看该作者
看来英雄100真是价廉物美的好东西了,抽空我弄两支来试试看,不好用送人,好用自留,呵呵~~~~
18#
发表于 2005-4-28 20:18 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2005-4-28 17:01 | 只看该作者
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>盐汽水</I>在2005-4-28 14:54:56的发言:</B>
不买英雄100是一件很遗憾的事,我的四支派克51都不如英雄100</DIV>
<>我只要换你3支就好了^_^   现在才知道616可以拍的怎么好看啊!低价的大包头笔尖发干,好像是通病啊!</P>
16#
发表于 2005-4-28 14:54 | 只看该作者
不买英雄100是一件很遗憾的事,我的四支派克51都不如英雄100
15#
发表于 2005-4-28 14:27 | 只看该作者
<>俺也忍不住想买支100啦</P><>玩够了还可以送给小朋友用</P>
14#
发表于 2005-4-28 14:18 | 只看该作者
<>翻译的不错啊,大概就是那么个意思啊.</P><>不过请大家注意,以后转贴请注明出处啊.谢谢。</P>
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发表于 2005-4-28 13:31 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2005-4-28 12:41 | 只看该作者
。。。厉害,我看的头都痛了。。。
11#
发表于 2005-4-28 12:06 | 只看该作者
<a href="http://www.penhero.com" target="_blank" >www.penhero.com</A>  的文章。还有一篇对英雄800给予了充分的肯定。
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发表于 2005-4-28 11:57 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2005-4-28 11:36 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2005-4-28 11:07 | 只看该作者
楼主啊,这是从那个网站上弄来的?真是不错,我也想去看看。
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-4-28 10:47 | 只看该作者
请翻一下,让不懂英语的笔友也能了解。
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